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  Contempt of court, case in San Diego county really disgusts me!

  by Crazyguy in

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  this case has to be talked about by ever awake jw every apostate everyone.

  this case because they refuse to hand over documents the court already knows they have because they handed them over before but heavily redacted, is the icing on the cake!

  this case shows thier evil plain and simple.

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  Half banana

  Yes exjwsrock, why are the GB not doing the "obey and be blessed" routine with Caesar's demands?

  Oh silly me! that's just for the rank and file drones.
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  Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?

  by KillerJones in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.

  is this 'new light'?

  from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.

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  Half banana

  JC got it wrong in the first century why should he be right another time?

  Mark 13, 24-31. "I tell you this: the present generation will live to see it all" NEB

  (I chucked my NWT away!)
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  What is the current suicide and mental illness rate among JWs and previous members

  by 060702015 in

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  2. friends

  there seems to be no current data on this information and there is questions concerning the validation of past data.

  apparently there is high rate of mental illness and suicide.

  jehovahs witnesses suicide rate 5 to 10 times above average.

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  Half banana

  It would be good to find someone who has had the patience, interest qualifications and financial backing to investigate the state of mental health of JWs and ex-JWs. Unfortunately I don't think there is anyone likely to do this for the time being. The last one was an Australian study about fifty or sixty years ago I believe. I had a paediatrician tell me that in his experience that Jehovah's Witnesses exhibit a far higher rate of delusional disorders (psychosis) than found in the general population.

  There is probably a correspondency of people with mental problems looking towards religious belief generally as a solution to their difficulties because religion is a socially acceptable practice which deals with existential hope.

  The JW belief exaggerates the certainty of its teachings and dissolve the grey areas by a black and white definition of the world and its workings. By using only the governing body of JWs as the last word in everything a paternalistic agenda is asserted. For a confused or mentally fragile individual, this concept can make for a clearly defined path to follow.

  Unfortunately for all JWs; it leads nowhere in the end except a mental slavery and the GB have never got anything right.
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  Is wife beginning to turn around?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so some may have read the long and boring post about our last vacation and some of the things that my wife came to tell me during our time away.

  i am adding the link here but i can summarize it for time's sake.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5768475763015680/vacation-time-reality-closing-up-on-my-wife.

  in a nutshell, right before we left, we found out of a jw couple we know well.

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  Half banana

  Looks very hopeful STA. Doubts can be worked upon but blind loyalty to the Borg is a dead end. You are dealing with doubts here. Best wishes.
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  Governing Body Anthony Morris gives talk at convention. Child refuses blood dies

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yxw_wxyviu .

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  Half banana

  There is nothing, absolutely nothing, which feeds cult paranoia like martyrdom.
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  Bunker Video: Why No Concluding Scene?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering why they ended the "bunker video" as they did ... with an armed militia finding the jws huddled in the corner of the basement ... fade to black.

  the jws watching don't know what happened after that.

  did they kill them?

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  Half banana

  Where do the tyrants go when their end is near? Why they go Into their bunker!

  It looks to me like the gloomy story being portrayed for the true JW believers is actually a projection of the foreboding existing in the collective mind of the governing body.

  They imagine, as they have hinted at before, that the secular authorities are on their tail and about to close in on them.

  It all sounds so neurotic and unattractive that I hope those with a sense of enjoyment in life will quickly escape from this religion with its delusional propaganda and learn how to enjoy living in the real world of optimism, rational thinking and behave as decent free human beings.

  Hitler committed suicide in his own fortified bunker in Berlin, Saddam Hussein also had a purpose built job but Muammar Gaddafi was found hiding in a drain with his trusty golden gun. Those who found him, shot him dead with it.

  As for the black and bleak ending of the video...................

  The governing body, having painted themselves into this doomsday corner are now descending into their spiritual bunker. They have no golden gun but instead a "silver sword."

  Will reliance on their own peculiar interpretation of it; save them.............. or condemn them to extinction?
  
  
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  Tales from the Special Convention in Helsinki

  by internationalfader in

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  2. beliefs

  i created a new account since i didn't want anybody to be able to trace this back to me based on my other posts.

  i was an international delegate at the special convention in helsinki.

  i am an awake pioneer.

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  Half banana

  International fader...an "awake pioneer"... what an interesting category!

  Much enjoyed your report.
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  Convention Weirdness

  by BlackWolf in

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  2. friends

  well i just got back from 3 days in hell, and geez was this convention strange or what?

  im sure someone's probably made a topic about this already but i can't believe that there weren't any new releases besides the movies.

  has that ever happened before?

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  Half banana

  A doomsday cult just has to be turning up the pressure all the time. The bunker idea and total dependence on the leaders "whether it makes sense or not" seems to characterise the later stages in the life of such a cult.

  In reality it is the cult itself and not "the system of things" which is doomed... and so at the end, like David Koresh at Waco, a siege mentality has to eventually be adopted as a final act of defiance to the world and as a demonstration to the faithful that their myth is coming true. It is an unsettling time for believers.

  ........................ get out while you still can!
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  The Divine Son of God, God Incarnate, Lord, Redeemer, and Saviour of the World

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before jesus was born or even if he had never existed—another human being was already proclaimed son of god and, indeed, god incarnate within the same first common-era century and within the same mediterranean world.

  in fact, almost all the sacred terms and solemn titles that we might think of as christian creations or even pauline inventions were already associated with caesar augustus, the first undisputed ruler of the roman empire, from 31 bce to 14 ce.. augustus was divine, son of god, god, and god from god.

  he was lord, liberator, redeemer, and savior of the world—not just of italy or the mediterranean, mind you, but of the entire inhabited earth.

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  Half banana

  FTS, sorry, I like to be provocative...it would be more transparently correct to speak of the syncretism which was forged under Constantine the Great as a fusion of contemporary “christian” beliefs. However I wanted to highlight the paradox that the doctrinal basis of these early sects of Christianity was then only recently and resolutely drawn from pagan belief... outstandingly so was the long pre-Christian history of the Christ figure himself. Even Constantine kept the Solar Invictus (unconquered Sun) image on his coinage up until about 320CE well after his purported conversion to Christianity. This was in fact a pivotal teaching of solar theology at the root of the Christ myth back in pagan antiquity, which had visible echoes in early Christian iconography.

  Think of any doctrine or NT story; it is likely that it has a pagan or a Gnostic antecedent. Odd intrusions into the NT text such as “I am the true vine” and “...upon this rock, I will establish my church” are tangible demonstrations of very pointed and specific gestures to existing cults, to that of Dionysus in the first case and Mithras in the second. Exotic words offered as a sop to the holders of these essential non-Jesuist doctrines in the on-going process of Roman Catholic syncretism; working in the familiar Roman imperial political manner of 'inclusion and assimilation'. For the sake of retaining their temple authority, It became prudent for cult leaders to make the move towards the teachings of the Imperial Roman Church.

  The fact is there is little authoritative literature if any on the subject and hence it is not on the general scholar’s radar. The whole episode of forced conformity had to be covered up and that could only be done effectively through Imperial agency to start with. Later with the dilution of Roman power after Theodosius the Church itself became so powerful it could lead the anti paganism drive.

  Overall I still cannot but think that Constantine was ever playing the role of emperor. He had his religious advisers such as Hosius and he had his publicists such as Lactantius and Eusebius but religion was for him an instrument of state. His nearly life-long tolerance of Roman cults and his ineffectual and fumbling attempts at directing the bishops towards doctrinal unison showed his heart was not in the business of Jesus-Christianity, as did his deathbed baptism. It was some of his offspring who took up the Christian banner and ran with it.
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  The identity of "The Faithful and Discreet Slave", solved - I think.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  “who really is the faithful and discreet* slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  - matthew 24:45. let's be honest, the faithful and discreet slave logically cannot refer to any and every christian.

  this is not merely an encouragement for all christians to prove themselves faithful and discreet.

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  Half banana

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